Editor’s note: No times were written down for some time in this
video, as I didn’t know I would, ultimately, be taking comprehensive
notes, and didn’t think of the tracking the time initially. We worked
on this video first.
So, until times appear, the transcribed and paraphrased text will be
separated by paragraphs.
Start of Part Three –
Good karma and bad karma – the entire burden of good and bad karma,
goes with us when we drop our physical bodies.
There was a man who was an astrologer. A spiritual guide told him the
big tumor on his back was because of a one hundred dollar debt from a
past life. The man had borrowed the money from someone, and never
bothered to re-pay it.
The spiritual guide then tells the astrologer that he would find a man
in the city of Lahore, who was studying medical science and whose
first name would start with the letter ‘A’, and conveyed, as well, the
date he would find this specific man. And when he found this man, he
was to give to him one hundred dollars. When he did, his past life
debt for the same amount would be considered paid.
Later, in the city of Lahore, the astrologer finds a man studying to
be a family doctor, and who is named Agyaram. He explains what his
spiritual advisor told him and pays Agyaram one hundred dollars.
The medical student then applies a lotion to the tumor on the
astrologer’s back. In a mere two days time, the tumor vanished.
But then the astrologer felt he owed for the treatment itself, since
the debt originally wasn’t in relation to any kind of exchange. He
didn’t have any money, so he cast a horoscope for the medical
student. And the medical student, Agyaram, found the horoscope to be
quite valid and true to events thereafter.
Like small children who start stealing early in life and in contrast
to an opposite case, for example, children who are born saints…
whatever you do in your life, good and bad, goes with you when you
translate from the physical plane.
I didn’t acquire this knowledge from any books, or from someone else’s
words. It is my own experience.
About six months back, I had a dream. I was given food in the dream,
which had meat in it. When I woke up, I thought about the fact that I
don’t eat meat or eggs, so why would I experience such a dream?
I soon understood that one time, in the 1920’s, I was going to Bhagdad
on a train. I told the housekeeper that I was vegetarian, so I should
only be served vegetarian food. The man brought a plate that had
vegetables and beans (dhaal) for me. But the beans had fish mixed in
it. I asked why was there fish in my food when I had asked for
vegetarian food? The man answered, “We consider fish as vegetarian
I reacted in anger and threw the food on the floor. Fifty years
later, I had a dream that was a result of that anger.
There is a very famous saying, “Marriages are made in heaven.” It is
true. Whomever is your wife, husband, or family, were related to you
in a past life.
A father in Dehli was unable to provide much dowry for his daughter,
and he was quite worried about this fact. But one day the daughter
had a dream that a wealthy man would arrive from the U.S.A., and while
he was in Amritsar, he would read an advertisement in the paper, one
the Delhi father had placed regarding his daughter. And the man would
very much like what he read of the woman described and he would arrive
in Dehli to ask for her hand in marriage.
After this did, in fact, take place, the wealthy man soon informed his
parents of his desire to marry the young woman. But the parents,
despite the fact that their son was wealthy, insisted on asking for a
dowry. And when the father admitted that he had no dowry for his
daughter, the parents said they would not approve the wedding.
The wealthy man then appealed to me (Baba Faqir) for advice. I told
the man to go to the Dehli court, marry the young woman, and bypass
any wedding ceremonies. And that he should then take her with him
back to the U.S.A.
When his parents heard who had given him this advice, they capitulated
and decided that they approved of his marriage to the young woman,
The young woman the wealthy, Amritsar man married was, also, his wife
in a past life. This life is greatly determined by our karma from a
past life. Sant Kabir has said so, as well.
If you want freedom from this whole process of re-birth, the only way
is to leave all these relationships. Freedom is moksha.
The singer sings Kabir phrases and Baba Faqir says he will now
describe how we can have Moksha.
Baba Faqir points at his third eye as he starts to speak: This whole
world is a kind of sea. A True Guru is one that helps you get out of
the sea of karmas, re-birth, etc.
Baba Faqir then, generally, describes the allegory of ‘Hanging in the
Gallows’: If a person has only a rope around his/her neck, and kicks
the stool out from underneath his/her feet, the person has no support
but the rope itself. This is the way a person ‘obtains’ Moksha.
Dropping all supports of mind when meditating, for example.
The way to your True Home is to leave all supports of relationships
and find a True Living Guru. She or He will show you the path to
reach your True Home.
To go to your True Home, leave all supports and have only one support
– the rope that will hang you. You need stairs to get to the rope and
your Guru-Dev vehicle is the stairs that you climb to reach the rope.
(Editor’s note: It is highly hoped that inserting this isn’t
necessary, but in case anyone should desire to take this literally,
such a thing would never take you to your True Home and only cause
the opposite case. Guaranteed, it would only cause the opposite
case. Please be sensible when reading this kind of allegory, and
realize that no reaction to it, at all, other than understanding what
it actually means, is a good sign of even-mindedness, and truly
All the people in this world are stuck in their bodies and not coming
to the state where they can find Truth. The reasons for this is
because of the will to survive, the will to be married, have children,
succeed in life, etc.
(Editor’s note: In the above paragraph, Baba Faqir is describing the
constantly flowing, outwardly directed energy that so often prevents
us from truly internalizing. That’s why for meditation purposes, He
describes the general ‘Hanging in the Gallows’ approach – in order to
impress the meditating soul that it is the reverse of all those
energies we are seeking to enhance in meditation, without ever
literalizing any harm, whatsoever, to the human body, or it’s ability
to allow us to perform all duties and functions at optimum
There is a Friend who calls to you, pulls you from your body to your
True Home, and that is the Shabad. Some call it Wahe Guru, OM, Holy
Spirit, The Father, Christ, HU, Allah, etc.
To go into this path, is very tough. It is not easy. There are very
few people walking this path (the one of seeking True Emancipation).
How to make it easier? To make it easier, you should have a True
Living Guru-Dev vehicle.
How will Shabad help you following the path? Wahe Guru, Ram,
Radhasoami (or whatever your chosen mantra is) – recite silently all
the time in your mind. This is worshipping Shabad all the time in
When you do this, you will eventually forget that you are in a body.
In performing this (Simran), we forget we are in a body. Concentrate
on the Word, the path – prevent mind from seeing dreams and
concentrate on Shabad.
Never treat your Guru-Dev vehicle as a human being. Just consider Him
as a Guru. When a child sees his Mother, Father, sister, brother, or
any other relation, he sees entities with which he has a relationship
and he sees ‘specifics’. But always see your Guru as a Guru.
An alcoholic enjoys alcohol because it stops his mind from roaming,
here, there, everywhere. That’s how we should enjoy worshipping the
Shabad. In a way that absorbs our mind and eventually prevents it
(More singing of Sant Kabir phrases, to which Baba Faqir responds) –
Sant Kabir says there is a force that brings us here, one that takes
us up to that place, and a force that will keep us up there.
The state of mind from ‘there to here’ is our desires. It is our
desires which brought us here. The Shabad will take us back there.
Your True God is your Shabad. What is your True Home? It is when you
forget yourself and become absorbed into that Shabad. That state is
very tough. It can come after three months, three days, fifteen
days. The maximum amount of time I have been able to stay there to
date is one and a half minutes.
Another example of absorbed is this: when you put sugar in milk,
there is no more sugar crystals. They blend with the milk. In a
similar way, we become absorbed in Shabad.
In that state, you forget yourself – in the absorbed state. There is
nothing within you in the absorbed state. Ego finishes – ‘I’
finishes. (Ahamkara finishes).
The person who ‘obtains’ that state – for him or her, the whole
process of re-birth finishes. Who ‘obtains’ this? The person who
worships Shabad with true love and devotion.
How is a person born? Inside the womb of his mother. A seed of the
father goes into the womb. How does the seed form in the father?
Because he has food. Semen grows because he has food. Food grows
because of sunlight rays. The body is actually transformed sunlight.
What is bhajan? It is Simran. What, exactly, is Simran? It isn’t
three stripes on forehead and it isn’t mala beads.
You will find sadhus who fast and seem to worship God – but they
aren’t performing bhajan. Bhajan isn’t outer accouterments and
Simran is bhajan – but Simran isn’t complete until you have in your
mind what you are worshipping.
I (Baba Faqir) was roaming in the jungle and I met a sadhu. I don’t
know if the sadhu actually existed or was a creation of my mind. The
sadhu asked of me, “Why are you roaming?” I replied that I
wanted to meet Ram (God). The sadhu said, “Your God is already
here.” Then the sadhu just gave me to Sant Mat.
When I read Sant Kabir’s writings, I saw that He criticized all other
Mats (paths). And during this time I swore that I would walk on the
Sant Mat path with all of my heart. And whatever knowledge I gained,
I would tell the public.
My preceptor, Data Dayal Maharishi Shiv Brat Lal Ji, gave me three
The first duty was, “Whoever is not happy in this world, you must hug
him and take him to the Guru.
People are not very happy, and you need to show them the Light and
take them to the Guru.”
The second duty was stated to be, “You are here for the sole purpose
to do well for people and help people walk in the path of Guru – you
are not an extraordinary man, and your main purpose is to pass on the
Light of Guru to the entire world.”
The third duty was stated to be, “To give Satsangs and give people
prasad so their problems in life would be solved.”
I don’t charge any money for Satsangs. In my will I wrote that the
temple, and my own house, are properties to which I don’t have any
rights, nor do my children have any rights to those properties.
Also described in this section – People came to me and said, “Babaji,
give me prasad so we can have children.” And many people then had
I gave a woman from Indore prasad in the form of a mango. She
eventually took it, and her child, to a doctor and told the doctor,
who had once told her that she would never have children, “I received
this prasad from Babaji and this is the child I have since birthed.”
Even though prasad worked for many who had been childless, it didn’t
work when I did the same for my own daughter. So, it is your own
faith and your luck that, ultimately, ‘causes’ the prasad to be
When people come to Satsang, they don’t come to learn Guru’s Path, or
to reach their True Home – they come to get rid of problems, they come
for prasad and the like. They’re not coming for Emancipation. So,
Kabir is saying, “The True Home is very good. But people only go
there when they are very devoted.”
People come to Satsangs and Gurus to ask for something – but you won’t
find your true path, or Guru, until you come to give. I used to give
whatever I had to my guru.
You’ll find your true Guru in the Satsang. Your true guru will be
sitting with you in the Satsang.
There are Sikhs present. I always ask Sikhs a question. I tell them
they are betraying Guru Nanak. They have asked, “How?” I have
answered, “You have no enemies, no friends, says Guru Nanak, and yet
you are fighting everyone.” Also, if you say that Guru Nanak was Guru
of Sikhs, that statement is wrong. He was a Guru of entire mankind.
I am a bubble of that Supermost Consciousness. If I was, personally,
that Supermost Consciousness, I could cure the entire world, any self-
disease or other’s disease, and most probably would. Kabir, too,
wasn’t able to cure his own disease, so he wasn’t, personally, that
Supermost Consciousness. (Editor’s note : Conclusion – the most any
of us as a human can be, is a bubble of the Supermost Consciousness).
When you’re sleeping and you have some bad dreams, you get scared and
wake up. You don’t have control of dreams. These dreams are all
previous lives and things that have happened to you. So, you should
control your activities during the day – life, in general – because
all these activities will go with you.
One of my friend’s son lived in Iraq. The son was thinking about me
and he seemed to instinctually know that my wife had translated from
the earth. He queried his father about that instinct and his father
confirmed that it was true. (This occurred in the year 1935).
To work and become a Guru is a very tough job. People always think
about you, and whatever the Guru is thinking about will go into your
Appearing to speak directly to Sant Harjit – “You spent money on my
fare from Delhi, to London, and back to Delhi, so it is my duty to
tell honestly of my experiences.”
Sant Mat is not for people who go to Satsang and ask for things –
things to fix their life.
Whatever things you do, you should think about them. Whenever you
plan to have a child, think about the child. If the parents are drunk
when they conceive a child, how can they expect to have a happy child,
or a child that will be of benefit to the society, as well?
I have written a motto in my temple: Mothers are the maker of the
nation. Leaders don’t build nations, mothers build nations.
When the child is in the mother’s stomach, whatever thoughts the
mother has, goes directly to the child – that is why mothers make the
Akhar was once emperor of the Moghul empire. When he was in the womb,
his mother used to draw maps on paper and proclaim that her son would
be ruler of the entire land. And, eventually, he was ruler of the
My father was a constable of the railway station. My mother used to
go to the railway station and look at the constables dressed up very
nicely in their suits. She dreamed when she had a son, he would be a
railway station constable dressed up in a very nice suit, too. And I
did become a constable of a railway station.
There is the example of Arjun in the Bhagavad Gita story. Arjun
listened to eleven Satsangs, and he still went to hell. Until you
practice the things you hear in Satsang, the Satsang won’t help you.
People read books, but reading won’t cause the ultimate help.
In England, I visited Hindus homes where they all ate beef. I asked,
“You are Hindu and yet you still eat beef?” Bad thoughts passed to
child from what the mother ate – that’s why their children ate meat.
I had a Sikh friend who frequently told me about his troublesome
wife. When he would arrive home from work, his wife would frequently
complain of stomach aches, so she didn’t have to cook dinner, and this
would cause her husband to have to prepare the dinner. And she was
faking the stomach aches. I told the friend she is not doing good and
one day she would be punished by God for her troublemaking, and she
would lose her son.
One day my friend came to me and told me that his son had died of
pneumonia. And I told him that it was because of his wife that his
son had died.
The same friend was eventually blessed with the birth of a daughter.
But the infant cried non-stop. The doctor said the child appeared to
be perfectly fine, and that maybe during her birth something was
wrong, and she was still crying in response.
On further questioning, my friend revealed that a nanny had been
present since the child’s birth, and that two days before the child
was born, the nanny’s brother had died. The nanny had been crying
since learning of her brother’s death, and I told him that the child
was crying in response to the nanny’s emotional state, as well.
There was an experiment once performed by doctors. They placed dying
patients on a large scale and then would measure how much weight
appeared to be lost when the patient passed away. And they eventually
recorded various numbers – five grams, twenty grams, etc. But the
soul doesn’t have any weight. What really happened is the heaviness
of the person’s thoughts vanished when the person passed away.
S/He would be thinking of family, or the Guru’s physical frame, the
temple, etc. The more s/he thought about physically embodied
entities, the more heavy becomes the encumbered soul, even though of
itself, the soul is weightless.
A soul encumbered with many, or intense, physically embodied thoughts,
concerns, etc., is, for a time, captured by the earth’s gravitational
pull. The force of the earth’s gravitation won’t let go of the soul.
A dying person may have given a lot of donations, or worshipped God.
But if s/he’s loving his Guru’s physical frame, or the temple where s/
he worshipped, then his soul won’t leave that area very immediately.
Mentions the Beas Gurus, Sant Kirpal Singh and Nirankari Gurus –
mentions He doesn’t agree with some of the philosophies purported by
People who donate money to Gurus for good, often think they’ll get
something good in return. Always do good wherever you can, but don’t
have expectations. If you expect fruits, you will have to be re-born
to reap the fruits.
Most of the people of the world pray to God and worship the Creator,
but when it comes to Sant Mat, you have to worship the Sant. (Editor's
note: In Baba Faqir's teachings this would not be the physical
embodiment of the Sant).
When I first heard this idea, I thought that Sants don't have any
right to make such a claim.
Sant Mat defines this entire world into two worlds - Kaal and Maya.
And I will now explain Kaal and Maya.
What is Kaal? Wherever there is activity, you cannot expect peace and
harmony. This entire world is activity, so peace and harmony doesn't
happen within it.
I am trying to explain Sant Mat and you are not fit for it at this
time. And I wasn't either. But you will be fit for it later.
Let's compare the entire world to a battery. Then we can say that the
world is formed of three things. One is resistance, the other is
current and the third is electro-motor-force (or the source of the
(Editor's note: The following is taken from "Atam Gian Part 3" --
"I again turn to the example of a battery. Each circuit of a battery
carries separate currents. The source remains the same whereas the
working of each circuit and its current differs from each other. Our
physical body is a microcosm of this universe (`as brahmanda so
pinda'). This universe is controlled and governed by the Supreme
Energy, whereas our body is controlled and governed by a current of
that Supreme Energy."
Sant Kabir calls the source of the current (or electro-motor-force)
Anami Purush and Guru Nanak called it Akal Purush. The world and it's
accompanying universes is a circle of Kaal, like the circuits in a
battery. The circle of Kaal is very strange as it keeps on running
The world is a giant wheel of Kaal. All people are very busy with
activities and riding this wheel of Kaal. Even the stars, sun and
moon are busy riding in the world of Kaal. Even the blood of the body
is busy with activity; the activity of Kaal Purush, the Creator.
All people are in action and they cannot expect peace. Peace can't
come to people in action.
We are all riding the giant wheel. We die and take birth on this
wheel. And like the current continues, all the activity continues.
No one was saved from entering and riding within this circle, or
wheel. Not even the Creator was lucky enough to be saved from riding
on this circle. (Meaning, there aren't some who were spared from the
wheel, while others weren't).
We meet and we separate from people - that is the nature of this
Person may be a Saint, may be a normal (average) human being, or a
priest. As long as s/he's in the circle of Kaal, there is no peace.
Here is an example - the sun's rays evaporate water from the sea,
which often forms clouds. The clouds rain, the rain freezes, and
becomes snow. The snow melts and eventually finds it's way back to
the sea, via rivers and such.
We are all seeing this - the water rising, falling, and we are
watching with open eyes. We know what is happening, and we have no
choice but to be involved in it.
Another example is that of waste products. Much of the food we eat
transforms to waste products, which then feeds more food products
which are growing. And we then consume those products. Like the
continual recycling of water, it is a constant circling, or wheel-like
process, that we see ever revolving in the Kaal Purush worlds.
You've called me here and I feel like it is my responsibilty to tell
you about Sant Mat. Renowned Saints will convey senseless kinds of
things sometimes, and then you'll find an uneducated person who will
make more sense.
Overall, many people in the Kaal worlds are deeply stuck in karma.
And the behaviors they repeat make it difficult for them to ever get